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What’s the workload like so far? 2006 August 29

Posted by queencru in 1L, Classes.

For all I’ve heard about law school, I have to admit the workload is a lot more manageable than I expected. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s easy, but it’s much less than people make it out to be. People say it will get worse, but my profs seem to be pretty consistent in terms of pages due per class. Legal writing also doesn’t look to be that bad either. There are clear examples of each assignment, which is more than I ever got in my tech writing job. Some of those topics were so boring I was ready to lose it after working just 2 or 3 hours, and there was always the possibility there wasn’t enough information available to even finish the project.

I think coming in with significant work experience and a grad degree is helpful because I really know how to manage my time well. I come home and do my work and if I have any free time I’ll watch TV or relax. I don’t really waste my time doing other things until I finish my work for the day. I really have no idea if I will be at the top of the class (most likely not), but I feel like I am prepared. I outline everything before class and then fill in the gaps in class.

What’s everyone else’s workload like?


Word to the wise… 2006 August 29

Posted by stephaniesays in Advice, Bar Review (the fun kind).

don’t get piss drunk on a monday night when you have class at 9am the next day.

i am amazed by the amount of alcohol that is in my law school, but i still had not been partaking in it besides a drink here and there. i was so annoyed yesterday that a friend and i went out and he proceeded to order me drink after drink. now i am paying for it. 0L’s: don’t do it!


Duck, duck, duck… GOOSE 2006 August 26

Posted by schooled in Classes, Professors.

So I’ve survived my first week of law school… there are several things I could talk about, but one topic I know many 0Ls worry about is how we’re called on in class (at least, that was one thing I was curious about). It varies from school to school, of course, as well as from professor to professor, but here’s a breakdown of my own experiences. Maybe it’ll make you feel a little more prepared, maybe it won’t.

In one class, the professor makes you stand up for the entire class and answer question after question. If you get it wrong (after several excruciating tries), he’ll take a volunteer, then hone back in on you. If you’re prepared, it’s awesome–you look like a bad ass and you get instant respect. If not, you get reamed. Both have happened, but not to me.

In another, the prof chooses two people and bounces between them the entire class. He’ll ask Person #1 a question. If #1 gets it right, the prof goes to #2. If #2 gets it right, he’ll go back to #1. And so on. If you get it wrong, he’ll get the correct answer from the other person or a volunteer, then ask you the next one… so you can redeem yourself, I guess. This particular prof also has a “point person” he’ll call on almost every class for the entire semester. That, of course, appears to be me. Hooray.

Another prof will call on a different person for each case. Depending on how many cases you cover that day, it can be anywhere from one to seven people.

Most of the profs won’t call on you again until they’ve gone through everyone once. Unless you’re the point person. Hahahahahah…. 😦

None of my profs uses a purely Socratic method–we generally know when we get it right or wrong. Although sometimes it takes a while to get there, we usually get an answer in the end.

Anybody else care to share?

Procrastination Station 2006 August 26

Posted by Lily in Articles, Links.

Because the whole your-brother-made-law-review-and-for-once-you’re-not-really-twins-you-have-an-older-brother—-one-who-set-a-very-very-high-standard-for-you-to-live-up-to thing is freaking me out, I’ve been reading the angry feminist blogs.

These two articles are worth reading — even if you have a million cases to brief. One is a book review of I Do, But I Don’t (be sure to check out the comments — they’re as interesting as the article), and the other is a follow-up.

Off to building Ikea furniture I go!

A few tips 2006 August 23

Posted by schooled in 1L, Advice.

A recent commentor left some helpful 1L tips that I thought merited a bit more attention… so voila! above the scroll publishing. (Thanks Marc!)

1. Cases are tough when you begin reading them because it’s a different language. I used High Court summaries because they were outstanding. The other summaries, I forget the name, are not as good; I used them the beginning of first semester and didn’t like them. As you learn to read the cases and the legal jargon, you find that you need the case summaries less, also the professor will start straying from the issues stated in High Court and talk about some really weird theories.

2. E&E’s are GOLD. If you can’t afford to buy them, go to a library and copy pages. If you can’t find them in the library, well… I would sell blood to get one. It will make exam time much more tolerable.

3. “Understanding” series by Lexus-Nexus is also a great resource.

4. Finally, Outline the course… it’s an easy way to organize things in your head and study for finals.

5. Also try dictionary.law.com or dictionary.lp.findlaw.com for definitions.

My deep, dark secret 2006 August 21

Posted by queencru in Rants.

I am at a school where people are obsessed with football. To be quite honest, I don’t care much for football. Actually, that isn’t entirely true, but the thought of ultra-enthusiastic fans with cult-like cheers that resemble Japanese baseball fanaticism just disturbs me a bit. I want to sit around, chat, and eat lots of concessions. Here, they just describe people as so spirited that you can’t sit at all during the game. What a fantastic sales pitch to people who aren’t quite so interested in sports. Then again, those people are probably female and decided not go to here. I’m still trying to decide whether to spend the $200+ on the experience.

Law Professors Are Evil… 2006 August 21

Posted by stephaniesays in 1L, Professors, Rants.

and it’s only the first day of class. Upon opening up my Property book to read tomorrow’s assignment I was greeted by a horrifying paragraph. The first two sentences said something about leasehold possessory states, freeholds, seisin and other such stuff. Yeah, what the hell, right? I pulled up Black’s on Westlaw to discern a definition or two but to no avail. I seriously needed a dictionary to understand the dictionary. I eventually turned to one of the 2Ls I know sitting across from me and forced him to explain the two sentences. It made sense. I explained it to my friend who had joined me. Then I moved on to chapter six, away from this lone paragraph from hell that took me probably 20 minutes to understand.

Now, why are law professors evil? Oh, because he threw us that nasty paragraph knowing we would be confused and in need of some dictionary research and deep though processes and THEN made us read (in another part of the book) the simple definitions and ideas behind that paragraph. Oh yes. He assigned that sucker to mess with us.

Women and Careers 2006 August 19

Posted by Lily in Society & Culture, Work.
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First of all, a job does not equal a career. There’s a lot of overlap, but a career involves a sense of trajectory and education that a job does not. That said, having a job after childbirth is common — not to mention extremely stressful. Career after motherhood? Not so much.

Like it or not, in business, law, and medicine, there’s a noticeable difference in the career trajectories of mothers and non-mothers. It’s not normal for mothers to have families and be successful at work.

Yes, the ultimate problem is that the workplace demands too much time. However, my experience in business makes me doubt corporations are going to change these policies without political intervention. With that in mind, you can make decisions based on how the world should be or you can make decisions based on how the world is.

Furthermore, this is a must read for women who think that an academic career will insulate them from the family/career tardeoffs most female lawyers have to make. I don’t care if you go to Yale; no one’s special when it comes to the laws of physics and biology. Unless you’re entering law school at 18 (and if you are, you’re probably a Simon’s Rock alumn — which means you probably know me), your childbearing years will conflict with your ability to put out enough publications to make tenure. Academia may not be as bad as business, medicine, and law, but “less bad” is not necessarily “good.”

How did this happen? 2006 August 19

Posted by queencru in Admissions.

I just finished my first and only full day of orientation yesterday. I started to notice something was a bit off in the courtroom when only about 3 people in each fairly long row were women. Then I went in my tour group to pick up books, take a campus tour, and get stuff for WestLaw and Nexis and 3 of my 15-person group were women. I chose a female-friendly service project so there were lots of women in that group. I was curious so I took a look at the list of JD students at orientation and from what I could tell only about 65 of the 200 students are women. I know that my school usually has a bit more men than women, but a ratio of 2:1 is just insane! What’s even worse is that I’ve found one other woman who is older than 25. The class seems to be dominated by men in their early 20s.

Just about a month ago, the class was up to about 225 or 230 and the school was able to lure a lot of people to defer. Most of the people who wrote on the message board that they had accepted deferral offers were men. My question is twofold- a)What was the distribution before people took deferral offers and b)What has to transpire to make a class that has a gender distribution that resembles what you’d find in an engineering program?

All I can figure is that the short-staffed nature of the admissions office led to poor record keeping or that the rubric (I am not sure this is the right word) used for admissions was so numbers-based that while ethnicity and geographic diversity seemed to be taken into account, other basics like gender and age were completely ignored. The possibility that it is all related to chance is very limited especially considering the overenrollment. You’d think that they’d have some leeway to try to entice men to defer while keeping all the women, but I know almost everyone got deferral offers so that wasn’t the case.

PS- is anyone having trouble with line spacing using the non-HTML version of the text editor? It’s really beginning to annoy me.

Advice 2006 August 18

Posted by Lily in Advice.

I could be wrong, but it seems like Spencer Overton’s advice may be helpful for new white students as well — especially like the part about public interest work.

Which reminds me: I have to wander off to D.C. now, but when I get back I’m going to post the definitive “What Every 0L Needs to Know About LRAPs” post.